Legendary actor and feminist icon Jane Fonda broke down into tears as she listened to Demi Lovato explain how they discovered they are nonbinary in the latest episode of the singer's podcast 4D with Demi Lovato.
According to Pink News, Lovato and Fonda were having a discussion about oppression and the patriarchy when Fonda asked Lovato when they realized patriarchy is the root of a lot of their problems.
Lovato said the realization came in two tiers. "I think the first tier was going to a friend’s poetry slam show that I identified so profoundly with, because they were talking about not conforming to genders and identifying not as male or female."
They continued: "When I heard their take on that, I identified with it so much that I thought to myself, 'Oh, there’s something here. There’s something that I’ve never known about my entire life but it’s clicking now and I need to research this, I need to do more work, I need to sit with this.'" Talk about a trans mood! I think most trans and nonbinary people can relate to that one.
Lovato also talked about their recent decision to cut their hair. "I was shedding all of the gender norms that had been placed on me growing up female in this world," they said. "And I always found that men were at the root of pushing their agendas on me – to be a sexy pop star, whatever would make other people the most money. And I had to break that mold because I had to find the freedom for myself in order to survive, to live."
But it was when Lovato started talking about their 2018 near-death-experience that Fonda broke down. Lovato said they had a voice inside them that told them, "'You’re not living, and if you don’t start living your life for you, it’s going to be your demise.' So I woke up and I thought, 'You know what, I'm going to live my truth and no matter who it scares – no matter who in the patriarchy it shakes – I’m going to live my truth for me.'"
Fonda, through tears, told Lovato that what they were saying was brave and she wished she could hug them. "I’m so glad to hear you say all this, Demi. I’m just so proud of you and I’m so glad, and I admire it so much," she said.
"I’m so glad that you came out of that because I’ve seen the documentary, that you came out of that with that realization, and that you’re finding your real truth and it’s just wonderful. It’s just wonderful."
Back in March, Lovato said that they considered themself “too queer” to date a cis man, and said that, "I know who I am and what I am, but I’m just waiting until a specific timeline to come out to the world as what I am."
Two months later, the singer and actor came out as nonbinary and updated their pronouns. "I’ll officially be changing my pronouns to they/them," they said. "I feel that this best represents the fluidity I feel in my gender expression and allows me to feel most authentic and true to the person I both know I am and still am discovering."