
What was the highlight of your shoot today?
Kit: I think the highlight was obviously Willam at all times, but most specifically for me and James when we got to be cowboys worshiping at Willamās feet.
Willam: Congratulating my castmates on Unconventional on Revry, because weāre really, really good in it. And I havenāt seen them in a while, and I just wanted to tell them that we should have a second season because I need a job.
James: Just being with these two. Theyāre always so much fun. In particular, the shot I loved was when Willam was spraying us with the water hose.
Kit: A big highlight for me was us being together again in the desert, because we got to shoot Unconventional out here, and thankfully, weāre with some slightly better weather. Itās not 120 degrees.

You showed off swimwear today. What would you wear to a gay pool party?
Kit: As little as possible. [As for swimwear brands] Iāve got my loyalty to Mr. Turk. Mr. Turk has been there for us through thick and thin and is very featured in Unconventional as well.
Willam: A key chain to hold my keysā¦and a cute towelā¦[a] little Bathhouse Betty moment. And then flip-flops because you can catch a lot of things, but PrEP does not cover athleteās foot.
James: Typically trunks, but Iām stepping into my soft top era and so Speedos! I used to be really self-conscious about my legs. Iām 6ā6ā and most of that is legs. I got a really high booty, but, yeah, Iām starting to try the Speedos out and I think Iām liking what theyāre giving.

What do you hope audiences take away from Unconventional?
Kit: You can chart whatever course you want in your life. You can be weird and wonderful and donāt have to follow any of the paths laid out for you.
Willam: I thought Unconventional was great because there were so many juxtapositions, like a drag queen who wasnāt necessarily drunk or high all the time....And I thought it just showedā¦[being gay is] not just Queer as Folk, letās get soaking wet. [Queer] people have problems too, and just because weāre really, really attractive doesnāt mean that we canāt tell those stories of those problematic people also.
James: I hope people take away that you do not have to live life the way youāve been told, that you canā¦chart your own course, and if you wanna start a family, start a fucking family. Do what is in your heart, and do it with the people you love.

Kit: We need to make space in this community for every kind of queer person. If you want to be in a monogamous relationship with 16 kids, I support you. If you want to be a freewheeling slut in your 40s, I support you. The fact is we need to support each other now in whatever way that we can.
What do you love about this area of the world?
Kit: So Unconventional is set in both the high desert and the low desert of Joshua Tree and Palm Springs [respectively], and they offer completely different things. The high desert is very wild and rugged, itās cowboys and cactuses. And the low desert is Palm Springs, midcentury modern and a kind of Americana that queer people have been instrumental in creating but [are] often excluded from narratively. So there are a lot of lines that Jamesās character has in the show about owning a piece of that, and weāre shooting in an original William Krisel-designed Alexander Construction Company home in Twin Palms. And Jamesās character Dan has a lot of lines about owning a piece of that and what that means as a queer person.

Willam: Palm Springs and Joshua Tree for me has been like an awakening as a queer adult. I shot Eastsiders with [Kit] in Palm Springs and Palm Desert, and that made me want to get a place out there, and now I have a place out there, and itās like my happy place. The desertās great because, in Palm Springs, Iām like a 9. Iām young again. And in Joshua Tree, Iām like 8, 8.5. Itās great. In L.A., Iām a 6, so come to the desert.
James: Shooting this show was an introduction to this area in many ways for meā¦. I think I prefer Joshua Tree in a way just because itās secluded. It was an opportunity to be out in nature. I actually did shrooms for the first time in the desert with these two by the pool before we shot [in preparation for a psychedelic scene]. I remember [seeing] it was a palm tree, a really tall palm tree, and I felt like she had ponytails, and she was sassyā¦. Come to the desert, and do shrooms.
Willam: And roller skate. Thereās a gay roller rink.

What does Pride mean to all of you this year?
Willam: Pride, for me, means visibility. We have to make ourselves known and shown so the next generation knows that they can do it too, because itās hard to go forth and like forge your own path unless you see somebody thatās kind of representative of you or in your image. Mine when I was young was Sylvester and RuPaul and Lady Bunny and Charles Busch and people like that whoā¦carved out their own niche, and shoved their foot in there and said, āIām gonna be there.ā So Pride for me is about that. And drink tickets.
James: For me, Pride is celebration. You know how you hear about the stages of grief and how itās similar to the stages of coming out? I felt like even though I was out ā Iāve been out for almost 10 years, for a decade now ā I was kind of stuck at acceptance, and always kind of working to getting to celebration, where itās not just about accepting that Iām gay or my family accepting that Iām gay, but being at a place where I can celebrate it, where I can actually wave a rainbow flag. I used to be that gay who would say, āI donāt wanna be a guy waving a rainbow flag. Yeah, Iām gay, but I donāt necessarily wanna be the poster child.ā Now Iām OK with being a poster child, and so Iām in a space where Iām ready to celebrate. Iām ready to get on a fucking floatā¦because this is the best thing that has happened for me in terms of being out and being able to work with other queer artists and just realizing Iām in a space where Iām realizing that this is my purpose. Iām doing exactly what Iām supposed to be doing, so here I am.

Kit: I really echo that. You know, for me, Pride this year is about defiance. I grew up in Mississippi, and I never wanna go back to feeling about being gay the way that I felt about being gay growing up. I often say (and my husband often says) that being gay is the best thing thatās ever happened to us. We thought it was the worst thing that ever happened to us, and itās only through life and experience that you learn that this world is yours.
Unconventional is now streaming on Revry. Benecia Oasis, Kit Williamsonās desert retreat, is available to rent on Airbnb.
talent: KIT WILLIAMSON @kitwilliamson
JAMES BLAND @jrbland & WILLAM BELLI @willam
photographer: BLAKE YOUNG @youngblake
stylist: NEIL COHEN @neilcohenstyle
makeup: EMILY MCCROSKEY NGUYEN @__emilyanneee__
videographer MIGUEL TORRES
location: BENECIA OASIS in JOSHUA TREE @beneciaoasis
This article is part of the Out May/June "Pride" issue, which hits newsstands May 27. Support queer media and subscribe ā or download the issue through Apple News, Zinio, Nook, or PressReader starting May 15.








