Out100 Cover Stars Ronen Rubinstein & Rafael Silva Televise Queer Love

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Out100 Cover Stars Ronen Rubinstein & Rafael Silva Televise Queer Love

9-1-1: Lone Star's Ronen Rubinstein and Rafael Silva are setting network TV ablaze with their fiery queer romance.

Tarlos is here -- and ready to take over.

Coined by fans of Fox's hit procedural drama 9-1-1: Lone Star, the affectionate "ship" name is a portmanteau of the show's queer main characters: firefighter-turned-paramedic Tyler Kennedy "T.K." Strand and Carlos Reyes, an Austin police officer. The LGBTQ-inclusive series centers on the lives of emergency responders and also boasts names like Rob Lowe, Liv Tyler, and transgender actor Brian Michael Smith.

Watching Lone Star, which opens a fourth season in early 2023, it's easy to see why fans love Tarlos. Their relationship -- which began in the pilot episode in an Austin honky-tonk and evolved into a roller coaster of casual hookups, breaking up, moving in together, and eventually getting engaged -- is a story LGBTQ+ fans could only dream about seeing on network television just a few years ago. Seeing these two characters -- with their movie-star good looks and boys-next-door appeal -- navigate life and love in relatable ways gives fans giddy feelings with every new episode (which is why discussions of Lone Star continually trend on Twitter during the television season).

Rafael AMIRI brown leather suit and polka dot button-down shirt, RAVEN FINE JEWELERS necklaces, earrings; Ronen VIGGO TAILORING green suit, RAVEN FINE JEWELERS necklaces, earrings, ring

Fortunately, out actors Ronen Rubinstein and Rafael Silva have the chemistry to bring these two Lone Star boys to life.

"I can't imagine doing this with somebody that (a) you don't like and (b) you don't mesh well with on set," Rubinstein says of Silva. Since they started this journey as Tarlos when Lone Star premiered in 2020, the two have grown close as both colleagues and friends. "I can't imagine doing that with somebody that you don't get along with and you don't respect and you don't love as a human being," he adds. "I can honestly say that's how I feel about Rafael."

"Ro and I are just so fucking different as people.... But it's this sort of yin and yang thing," says Silva. "Two of the same pieces of the same puzzle are not going to go together, they're just not. They have to be different in order to complement each other, and I think we do that very well as actors and as people."

One of the first scenes the two shot together was a sex scene, and like with any intimacy on camera, that required a lot of trust -- even if at the time, they had just recently met. But the two used their real-life newness with each other to their advantage, as it paralleled how T.K. and Carlos were also just getting to know each other, creating a realistic pairing that the stans simply can't get enough of.

"At that point, when you have a bunch of people just watching you make out and do that, you have to rely on your partner," Silva says. "It's like we only got each other right now, so let's just do whatever happens here, just go with the flow. Let's just go."

Rafael PALOMO SPAIN trench coat, RAVEN FINE JEWELERS necklace; Ronen BODE green and cream crochet vest; RAVEN FINE JEWELERS ring, DAVID YURMAN bracelet

Tarlos, with all their confidence and chemistry, is one of television's better examples of an LGBTQ+ couple just getting to live their messy but meaningful lives without extreme trauma keeping them apart. A couple like Tarlos was a portrayal Rubinstein and Silva didn't see a lot of growing up, and that helped motivate them to portray T.K. and Carlos in a way never before seen by generations of queer TV watchers.

Silva, who was born in Brazil and spent the early part of his childhood there, says he was raised in a very male-dominated, machismo-drenched culture with a stigma surrounding gay people. It wasn't until he was a young adult attending Pace University in New York City that he was exposed to queer culture, and he was able to "actively, fully be myself" as a gay man. And it wasn't until he saw Viola Davis's badass bisexual Annalise Keating on ABC's acclaimed How to Get Away With Murder that he felt like he saw something of himself represented on television.

Like Silva, Rubinstein, who spent his childhood in the U.S. but was born in Israel after his family left the Soviet Union following its collapse, had a similar experience growing up in a culture that taught folks being gay or queer was verboten. "It just wasn't a thing that was ever brought into my world," Rubinstein says.

That is, until he caught the acting bug. Going into Manhattan for auditions and exploring the West Village introduced Rubinstein to people and cultures that he had never experienced before, and that's when he started to realize he could truly be himself and like both men and women. (Rubinstein publicly came out as bisexual in April of 2021 while Lone Star's second season was airing.)

"I remember going there, just wandering around, and I was like, 'Oh, wow, this is amazing,'" he recalls. "I think that was probably the first time where I started looking at men differently. Especially growing up, [I don't remember] anybody talking about being bisexual. That wasn't even a term that I even knew existed. It was just gay or lesbian."

Rafael PALOMO SPAIN trench coat, RAVEN FINE JEWELERS necklace; OSCAR X FRANK sunglasses; Ronen BODE green and cream crochet vest and white pants; RAVEN FINE JEWELERS ring, DAVID YURMAN bracelet, OSCAR X FRANK sunglasses

Though they didn't have much representation growing up, Silva and Rubinstein are elated by how many people are touched by Tarlos. "It's really all over the world right now, it's unbelievable," Rubinstein reflects. "I'd be lying to you if I said, 'Yeah, of course I knew it would be like this,' or 'Yeah, I expected it.' First of all, just for this storyline to even be birthed, it is so risky. Especially for a network like Fox. If it wasn't for [creators] Ryan Murphy and Tim Minear, it wouldn't be possible, and it's still shocking me to this day."

What was also shocking for Silva and Rubinstein (in a good way) was getting to see just how much love fans were ready to give in real life, as the two got to meet Tarlos stans over the summer at the Dream It Not at Home convention in Paris.

"We met a lot of people saying, 'I've been saving money to come here, I've been working overtime,' so all I could hear was, 'I've been putting in effort in order to see you,'" Silva says of the experience. "When you hear that, you feel the responsibility to also take them in."

And they're not taking any of that love and support lightly. With season 4 of Lone Star on the horizon, and with more Tarlos promised to viewers after a breathtaking proposal scene at the end of season 3, Silva and Rubinstein are more committed than ever to nailing their parts as authentically as possible. And they can't wait for fans to see what season 4 has in store.

"I've definitely been shocked and surprised already within the first couple episodes. There's definitely been some storylines where I'm like, 'What?'" Rubinstein says. "It's hard to predict what's going to happen on the show, especially with us, so that's been really cool. It keeps you on your toes, and when I get a script, I'm literally flipping through the pages as fast as I can because at any moment, there could be a bombshell -- and we're definitely going to have a couple this season."

"Right off from episode 1, we're going to find out some things that are funny, but it propels on to several beautiful episodes after the first one, and it's going to be intense," Silva says. "It's going to be fun to watch and fun to do. Like what Ronen said, you can't really expect much because things change a lot. Whatever you think is going to happen, Tim always brings something better than what your imagination can perceive. I think the fun part is just waiting to find out what actually happens."

"The biggest thing is all paths lead to the wedding," Rubinstein adds.

Rafael AMIRI brown leather suit and polka dot button-down shirt, RAVEN FINE JEWELERS necklaces, earrings; Ronen VIGGO TAILORING green suit, RAVEN FINE JEWELERS necklaces, earrings, ring, DAVID YURMAN bracelet

As the actors reflect on the future of their careers beyond Lone Star, both remain optimistic that LGBTQ+ representation is only going to improve, and they both want to work on projects that push boundaries and are more inclusive of historically marginalized identities. For Rubinstein, that means seeing more projects with bisexual male leads, and for Silva, that means adding Latinx representation to mainstream American media.

"I would love to do movies and work with some of my heroes, whether it's Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, Christian Bale. I've been putting that out since I've started this journey, so hopefully it happens," Rubinstein says. "I think, selfishly, I would like to see more male characters who are bisexual, especially in leading roles. It's strange that it's not happening more often. Maybe it's going to take me to produce something or be the one that does it, but I'd love to see more of that. I think there's a lot of stories to be told, but especially in the LGBTQ+ community."

"If I'm going to dream, I want to do things that challenge me, that make me scared, but where I can also have fun and also, I'm going to say selfishly, where I can achieve a certain level in my career where I won't feel like I have to explain myself," Silva says.

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RAFAEL in PALOMO SPAIN trench coat and RONEN in BODE green and cream crochet vest, both in RAVEN FINE JEWELERS

This article is part of Out's November/December 2022 issue, out on newsstands November 8. Support queer media and subscribe -- or download the issue through Amazon, Kindle, Nook, or Apple News.

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In their new book of LGBTQ+ couple’s portraiture Holding Space, Ryan Pfluger lets love guide the lens.

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“I exist at the intersection of marginalization and privilege. I am queer — I am nonbinary — but I’m also white. Grappling with how to handle that as an artist — for my work to investigate a nuanced and complicated space — has been a long journey,” begins photographer Ryan Pfluger (he/they) in his introduction to Holding Space: Life and Love Through a Queer Lens, a revelatory new book of portraiture centering interracial LGBTQ+ couples.

In Holding Space, the meaning of the introduction is layered. The reader learns of the intent of Pfluger’s project — to explore intersectionality through photography of these subjects. But it’s also an introduction to Pfluger, who reveals that his career choice was influenced by an upbringing where he felt powerless. “My father a drug addict, mother an alcoholic. I was outed by my mother at 13 — an age when I didn’t even know what that meant for me. Control became an abstract concept that I was never privy to,” Pfluger shares.

“The driving force to be behind the lens though, was my instinctual desire for people to feel seen, thoughtfully and lovingly,” they add. “From my own experiences and of those I love, I know how damaging being seen through the eyes of judgment, racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, and so on can be.”

Gaining control — guiding the lens and the narrative — was an early driving force behind his work. (A renowned celebrity photographer, Pfluger will be known to Out readers for their 2015 Out100 portraits, which included Barack Obama and Caitlyn Jenner.) As photography became “less of a craft and more a part of my being,” however, “I discovered my gift to create art also held space for others—that relinquishing the control I had so desperately craved can be more powerful than possessing it,” Pfluger says. “Photography became a vessel of healing.”

To heal, hold space, and explore intersectionality in a way not seen before through their medium, Pfluger set out to photograph interracial LGBTQ+ couples within their social circle. This time, he did indeed relinquish control and let his subjects tell their story. They could choose the setting and their style of dress or undress. The only requirement was that they touch one another in some fashion.

By the project’s conclusion — “two cross-country trips, over a thousand rolls of film, and sixteen months later” — Pfluger had documented over 120 couples, many of whom were recruited through social media and the internet. Some had broken up over that time period and pulled out of the project. Others wanted to share their heartache. Their stories, in first person, accompany their portraits, which launch Holding Space from the genre of photography book to a work of nonfiction, a chronicle of queer love in the 21st century.

“That is the beauty of relinquishing control,” Pfluger concludes. “Allowing the space for things to evolve and change — for marginalized people to have control over their narratives regardless of my intentions. To listen and learn. That is why Holding Space exists.”

Over 70 portraits and accompanying essays are featured in Holding Space, published by Princeton Architectural Press. The book also boasts excerpts from luminaries like Elliot Page, Bowen Yang, Ryan O’Connell, and Jamie Lee Curtis, and a foreword by director Janicza Bravo. Find a copy at PAPress.com, and see a selection of photography below.

Akeem (he/him) & Samuel (he/him)

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“Despite our different desires, truths, and fears, there was a unique familiarity that made space for us to better understand each other.” — Akeem

“We challenged the system when we decided to be together, and we’re challenging it again by staying in each other’s lives and preserving the bridges we’ve built." — Samuel

Liz (she/her) & Carlena (she/her)

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“Each and every day I am humbled by the intersectionality of our love. By the way our individual ethnicities, races, upbringings, and queer identities guide us toward an even deeper understanding of self and other.” — Carlena

“My hope is that by continuing to love one another openly and fearlessly, future generations will be inspired to also love without any bounds.” — Liz

Chris (he/him) & Joe (he/him)

Ryan Pfluger

“We are proud to be one of the few queer interracial couples within our immediate or extended family/friend circles, which has encouraged us to speak to our experiences and help others learn alongside us.” — Joe

Jobel (he/him) & Joey (he/they)

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“The beauty that we are coming to experience in owning our sexuality is that we can define what it means for us and how we want to experience it.” — Jobel

Luke (he/him) & Brandon (he/him)

“Our differences are a plenty, but this love does not bend.” — Luke & Brandon

David (he/him) & Michael (he/him)

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“We started our relationship at the height of the pandemic, and it was amazing to be able to run to Michael and feel safe in his arms.” — David

Milo (he/him) & Legacy (he/they)

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“Queer relationships aren’t tied to the limited, binary expectations that typically define heterosexual relationships.” — Milo

“Creating more healthy space in our friendship has been peaceful for us. I feel we are embracing a new form of love.” — Legacy

Coyote (he/they) & Tee (she/they)

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“Loving you feels instinctual, like a habit I was born with. It feels like I was born to love you.” — Tee

“I can feel you loving something deeper than the surface of me and it makes me feel so alive.” — Coyote

Jo (they/them) & Zac (they/them)

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“What can I say other than it is incredibly life-affirming when Jo and I are able to achieve the level of coordination needed to experience the sensation of ‘them,’ and that it helps when I say, ‘I love them’ or ‘I trust them.’” — Zac