On the January 19 episode of Phil McGraw's long-running daytime talk show
host Matt Walsh was sat in discussion with a non-binary couple, identified as Ethan and Addison, to discuss what the show called "the gender pronoun debate."
At one point in the episode, Walsh said those who believe in "left-wing gender ideology" to being "just like a 4-year-old, who can't even answer 'what is a girl,'" and reduces the concept of womanhood to a generalized biological condition.
When both Ethan and Addison -- neither of whom identify as female or as women -- were asked to define womanhood, Addison responded by saying, "I do not define what a woman is because I do not identify as a woman. Womanhood is an umbrella term that describes people who identify as a woman. Each person has their own relationship with their gender identity."
While the audience appreciated the answer, Walsh accused Addison of wanting to "appropriate womanhood, and turn it into, basically, a costume that can be worn." Walsh took to his Twitter account to brag about his performance during the debate on
, though the fact still remains that trans people's identities are not a debate.
\u201cHere\u2019s the part on Dr Phil where I demonstrate that the \u201cgender experts\u201d cannot even define the word woman or explain what they mean when they use it \n\n\u201d
While McGraw gave Walsh a platform to spew his hate, he notably did not give space or time to those who could speak and report on the terrible, real-life, and often violent effects that kind of anti-trans rhetoric can have on trans folks.