
FROM THE ARCHIVE: Whitney Houston's 2000 Out Interview
2.13.2012
By Out.com Editors
In May 2000, Out magazine published this cover story on Whitney Houston with cover and interior photography by David LaChapelle. In the story, writer Barry Walters asks Houston about the lesbian rumors that had persisted throughout her career and includes the quote: “I suppose it comes from knowing people…who are. I don’t care who you sleep with. If I’m your friend, I’m your friend. I have friends who are in the community. And I’m sure that in my days of bein’ out, hanging with my friends, having nothing but females around me, something’s gotta be wrong with that.”
“I ain’t ‘ho’-in,” says Whitney Houston, the world’s No. 1 Pop R&B goddess/potty mouth. “I ain’t suckin’ no dick. I ain’t gettin’ on my knees. Something must be wrong: I can’t just really sing. I can’t just be a really talented, gifted person. She’s gotta be gay.”
Houston’s way of addressing The Question—the one that’s been hovering over her all these years despite her marriage to Bobby Brown, despite motherhood, despite her multiplatinum, All-American, church-goin’, Kevin Costner-co-starrin’, crossed-over-to-and-from-every-which-way image—says so much more about her than her answer. An answer we’re not gonna give away right now.
Yeah, this is Girlfriend’s first big G-A-Y interview, something queer guys and gals from Kentucky to Kalamazoo have been craving since we first found Cissy Houston’s daughter, the cousin of Dionne Warwick, calling to us across the airwaves in the mid ‘80s, singing about savin’ all her love—for somebody. There’s so much more to Houston’s connection to gay culture than her much speculated upon sexual orientation, and with the release of her double-disc Greatest Hits comes an occasion to reappraise the omnipresent sister we’ve watched break records and survive trends since she became a near-instant superstar at age 21. “From ‘How Will I Know’ to ‘Love Will Save the Day,’ that girl’s gone,” says the 36-year-old singer as she sits in the lounge of Beverly Hills’ Le Meridian hotel, surveying the collection’s proposed list of tracks. “From ‘I Will Always Love You’ on, that’s a woman.”
That woman is in town for two special performances: One will take place at Clive Davis’ pre-Grammys bash, an annual dinner party thrown by her music-biz father figure, the soon-to-be-departed head of Arista, Houston’s record label. (Although Arista won’t confirm Davis’ departure, music-industry observers consider it a done deal.) The other is for the Grammy Award ceremony itself, where, it turns out, she’ll collect a Female R&B Vocal Performance statue for “It’s Not Right But It’s Okay.” Relaxing after rehearsals and costume fittings, the pop singer once knocked for being too white is decked out neck to toe in rapper-wear: an oversize designer-logo T-shirt, dark running pants, a drab, smocklike jacket. But covering her head is a checkered-cloth hat that reaches around her neck and hides her hair: It’s what old-school queens would call a “snood.” She’s also sporting a wedding ring with a diamond so huge it looks fake, as if it rolled out of a gum-ball machine. This unlikely combination of street and stage gives Houston a look that’s somewhere between Compton and Sunset Boulevard.
But it suits Houston’s Pam Grier-meets-Gloria Swanson personality perfectly. Miss Thing is intense. Her expansive, emphatic gestures suggest both boys in the hood throwing gang signs and a preacher determined to save the souls of her flock. Her facial expressions flash and pierce with the power of a woman who can charm and do battle. Remind her of a distasteful tabloid inquiry and her eyes will zero in on yours as if you, personally, dreamed up the headline and put it on the printing press yourself. Bring her back to a happy memory and she’ll share her joy with the generous familiarity of a bosom buddy. She’s sweet and not a little scary, reminiscent of the drag queens with monikers like Pepper Labeija who light up the vogue-ball documentary Paris Is Burning.
Although Houston is known for this eccentric celebrity shtick, the release of The Greatest Hits may allow her to inhabit a role that blockbuster films like 1992’s The Bodyguard and her platinum records haven’t: She may finally become hip. The second disc of The Greatest Hits features disco-tized dance mixes of her smash singles, courtesy of such dance-floor dons as David Morales, Hex Hector, Thunderpuss, Tony Moran, and Junior Vasquez.
This major foray into dance music is part of an ongoing transformation: Faced with the impossibility of matching the astronomical 36 million copies sold internationally of The Bodyguard soundtrack, Houston has since focused on narrowing the chasm between her popularity-driven past and the hip-hop-defined present, between her goody-goody marketing profile and her actual life. The pastel-clad Whitney who twirled through that wonderfully tacky “How Will I Know” video would never have allowed herself to be caught at a Hawaii airport with pot in her pocketbook, would never have collaborated with street-bred artists like Missy Elliot, Wyclef Jean, Faith Evans, and Rodney Jerkins (as she did on 1998’s comparatively gritty My Love Is Your Love), and would never have turned the party out at last year’s New York City lesbian and gay Pride celebration.
Some might view Houston’s career as a struggle to stay relevant, but Davis sees a natural artistic evolution. “You don’t unravel yourself at the beginning,” he says. “It takes years to do that. For eight years she was doing songs that fit her movie roles. She’s still unraveling and showing there’s no material—whether it be hip-hop, up-tempo, or ballad—that she cannot do.”
Whatever the reason for her latest image overhaul, the new Whitney is clicking first and foremost with a gay audience. Top 40 radio halfheartedly accepted the jerky neo-R&B of “It’s Not Right But It’s Okay” (from My Love Is Your Love), but when Arista started pushing an up-tempo, circuit-ready version of the song by the tribal-house/Hi-NRG remix duo Thunderpuss, the revamped jam exploded; on MTV and VH1, the video set to the Thunderpuss version went into heavy rotation. Although Davis insists that Houston’s “always been queen of the dance floor,” she’s never had a club record this huge or this homo. “The last time that a remix was more popular than the original version was Everything But the Girl’s ‘Missing,’” notes Thunderpuss’ Barry Harris proudly. “We scrapped everything but the vocal, put her ad-libs in the forefront, and rethought the entire song.”
This latest hit, urgent and urbane, finds Houston a long way, both musically and emotionally, from her naïve if focused beginnings. “I was singing, makin’ money—an independent woman,” Houston recalls of the explosive success of her 1985 debut, Whitney Houston, which held the record for the best-selling solo female debut until Alanis Morisette came along. “I had come out of an all-girls academy, signed a contract, traveled the world—I didn’t know about pressure. I just knew what I had to do. [Snaps her fingers.] What I wanted from it. [Snap!] Now there’s pressure. Now I got a kid. I gotta try to keep her head together. I gotta nurture this soul.” Houston’s referring to Bobbi Kristina, her seven-year-old daughter with husband Bobby Brown, ex-New Edition singer and solo bad-boy who’s shared many a tabloid headline with his wife.





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Whitney was a beautiful, talented person. She wanted what all normal women like: beautiful clothes, respect from others -- and most of all love.
I first heard the gay rumor right after her second album was released. Many Black radio stations said her music was "too White." Also, many Blacks back then criticized her not exposing or shaking her body parts or singing sexual lyrics in her performances. To punish Whitney, she was loudly booed by Blacks at the Soul Train awards. (I believe Anita Baker won the nomination over Whitney). As a Black woman, I can tell you this had to really hurt Whitney and her family.
To satisfy gay rumors (whether true or false) was the major reason I believed she married Bobby Brown. No one EVER gives her credit for trying to hold her marriage and family together.
Regardless, we still have Whitney at the peak of her life -- in song, movies and interviews. I don't believe Clive Davis, the Illuminati, Bobby Brown, X-Factor singer, or even drugs killed Whitney. It was the never-ending lies, rumors and criticisms which follow someone of her unique celebrity. She needs this rest in death. My prayers to her family.
i luv whitney,gay or straight.her music makes people happy.why should i care if shes gay.the straight people are not the best,neither are the gays.society are full of hypocrites.leavd people to be who they wanna be.
I think sometimes in the gay general public, there is a desire to project "gay" onto celebrities because we have not learned to be confident in our own sexuality. We need to see "gay" in someone successful and powerful; so in our minds every strong-willed female is a lesbian and every good-looking man is gay. There has never been any strong evidence to suggest that Whitney was a lesbian. She was a female with a female best friend. If that made her gay, then 99% of all females are lesbians. It's slightly hypocritical to want heterosexuals to be 100% accepting of gays, yet some of us are not able to accept that you can be straight and still hang out with gays and lesbians. I'm glad that the love between Whitney and her gay fans was mutual, but I don't think she was gay.
I don't blame her for not coming out. Think about it, she would have never become who she is..look at Elton John back in the day he wasn't out, George michael was portrayed as straight. I just think this was a woman who didn't identify with anything but love. She didn't use titles. I remember being in highschool and just like Whitney said, I wasn't hoing on my knees or sucking dick and I played a sport so I must have been gay. I did have a boyfriend because I was a good student athlete who was focused..my highschool experience was pure hell because they outer me before I even knew I was gay. That's torture. When I went off to college I had a girlfriend and my family never knew I was GAY..it was so much pressure to stay in the closet. I had to go through therapy for depression and take antidepressants. I finally opened up to them, but the one thing that I said that was key and true is I'm with a girl, not I'm gay. I said this because it rings true..I fell in love with who I fell in love with. I don't like titles at all because I don't know what tomorrow will be. We should let go of all the titles. You have some who are flat out gay, you have some that like both, and you have many tht just love. I think she fits in that category. Just like these people are attempting to out her while she's dead, they dis the same think when she was alive except no one really gave it much thought. That had to be pure hell for her. It actually makes me sad if it's true that she had to hide who she was. She didn't get a chance to experience the joy of being able to be out.
As someone who is almost the same age as was Whitney (43 to her 48), and who grew up gay in the early 80s, I remember the widespread homophobia was was ever present in society at the time, and more so in the media. Over the last 20 years we have come light years away from where we were as youngsters. At that time, there is NO WAY that Whitney Houston, the All American, pale skinned Black middle class churchgoing wholesome pop angel princess who every kid and their mother could look up to and love would EVER have survived had she linked herself to rumours of lesbian life, be they friends, lovers or family members. This was the 80s. People were beaten almost to death for being gay every weekend. I remember the furore surrounding Culture Club and Boy George, and he played it clever be desexualizing himself. A major international pop star on her way up the career ladder would have been committing career suicide if she had "come out". That simply was never an option for her. Take away the record company and her career and you're left with her family, all solid church going African American Baptists. The African American community, as does the Afro-Caribbean community in the UK, has no tolerance for homosexuality whatsoever, as gay Black friends of mine over the years could attest to. She would have been shunned and ostracized by all who were close to her. So it's really not that difficult to understand why she would have kept herself in the closet, even going so far as to marry Bobby Brown to kill 2 birds with one stone; the questions about her sexuality and the accusations from the music community that she had no credibility because she was a cross-over artist. Poor woman, that's what I call pressure. And then she became a battered wife. No wonder that her drug use, which probably started as recreational, swiftly became much darker. The more successful she became, the further away she was from herself. And the pressure was on to keep relentlessly on that road. All the "hangers on" and "entourage" and family who she was bankrolling, as well as the record company, would not have allowed her to step off that train. No wonder she sought refuge in crack induced oblivion. She was possibly incredibly alone, unhappy and felt that she was unable to control where the whole circus was taking her. Screaming at an assistant for another drink, a packet of cigarettes or refusing to do an interview was probably the only way she could actually assert her authority. I know I am making her out to be someone without any self confidence, which is patently untrue, she could never have sustained the career she had without it. But when the sums of money involved become so overwhelmingly huge (as they were for her in her career) and the responsibilities which go along with them become as huge, it's not surprising that someone panics, which is what I think she did. We have a massive problem in our society. It's called fame. Just because someone is famous for something it doesn't elevate them above others. It simply means they have attracted a crowd for a particular reason. And the entertainment industry is all illusion. It's designed to make people part with their money in return for being entertained. Its "stars" are not deities. They're people who front the whole operation, and when off stage, off camera, off paper, have the same human angst as everyone else.
Very, very well said.
I will never EVER blame anyone for not coming out. Public eye stars or regular Joe's like me because it's really nobody's business but their's. And it's something that can be incredibly hard for them to do. They mustn't be blamed or judged for that! It's enough people get blamed and judged FOR coming out, they shouldn't be for NOT coming out too. Damn!!!
Whitney should have embraced God and made herself be totally straight. God loves the sinner but hates the sin. God hates the sin of homosexuality and it even says in the old testament that homosexuals must be put to death. This is the word of God. God only accepts those that are straight.
As a black, lesbian who just lives a regular life, I can tell you, that it's hard, just for a regular non-famous Black woman to come out. I am also in Whitney's generation, so of similar age. The Black community has its special brand of homophobia, which you feel from the minute you are aware of your sexuality. And from what I understand, Whitney came from a very religious family. That would be very hard. For any person to come out is hard, but those issues are greatly magnified for a Black woman. Let alone someone like her who was constantly in the public view. Very, very hard.
She was a very talented performer. She was probably a lesbian. So what. I don't blame her for not wanting to come out. She'd then always be "gay singer Whitney Houston." When you think of Ellen is it because she's a comedienne or because she is gay?
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