Peaches' Electro Shocks
By Noah Michelson
I wanted to talk a little bit about the idea of sexual liberation. I think gay liberation is very much tied to sexual liberation. I think that�s the reason a lot of gay men see you as --
A gay man?
I�m just kidding.
Definitely an icon.
I think it�s fantastic!
What have you learned from gay culture?
Gay culture is always ahead of every other culture because of its openness. There�s a certain experience where they have come up against the wild -- where something isn�t accepted in the mainstream culture so they�ve always had a second look. Like, �Wait a minute, something�s not right here. I feel right the way I am but the world tells me it�s wrong or Christian culture tells me it�s wrong or any religious culture tells me it�s wrong.� Obviously it�s religion that�s the problem, not the way you feel. I just feel they�re always a step ahead because they�ve had to deal with certain things.
You sometimes get painted as this scary, really angry �femi-Nazi� who hates straight men.
Well that�s just completely ridiculous. I�m in a heterosexual relationship, which I would also like my gay and lesbian and bisexual fans to know and accept because when people find out I have a boyfriend they are often really disappointed or whatever. I think that�s small minded because I just found someone that I really love and he happens to be a big bear.
[Laughs] We love the bears at Out. The cornerstone of what you do is that everyone should be able to do whatever they want.
Yeah! I don�t understand why were not allowed to be who we want to be. That�s just ridiculous.
When Impeach My Bush came out one of the reviews said, �Nothing�s really shocking anymore but she definitely tries, so she gets our vote.�
I�m not trying to be shocking. I�m just trying to balance things out.
One of the most radical things on the new album though is this one little line that�s in �Trick or Treat� where you say, �lick my crow�s feet.� I feel like the idea of aging and sexuality --
You can look at Madonna in that way right? She�s 50. It�s controversial for people. Maybe they love it or maybe they think, �Give it up! You�re so old!� There are so many strong women who have so much influence on mainstream culture at this point, there�s no denying them getting older and still being a part of it. It used to be people making fun of older women and men dressing as them. It�s a whole new combination of ageists and the way we view age. There is the whole other side where people are insane about their Botox and stuff like that.
I was going to ask you about Madonna specifically and how she's dealing with aging. I know you said before that you weren�t a huge Madonna fan when you were growing up --
I was a bigger fan of Madonna interviews and things she said than the music. Cyndi Lauper -- she was the coolest to me. I think Madonna exists in a very real way and that she�s chosen to defy [her age] is a choice that should be seen and heard and whatever. On the other hand, you see someone like Patti Smith and I always loved the way she�s presented herself with spit on her lip and if there�s a piece of snot hanging she leaves it there on purpose. Stuff like that. I think she�s totally hot. She just is -- with no makeup. But they�re both very important.
There�s something even more taboo about the idea of a woman not just growing old -- gracefully or not -- but also still holding onto her sexuality and being seen or presented as a sexual being.
Grace Jones. She�s an amazing example with her little ass sticking out at 60 and doing these fucking amazing and really hardcore shows. I don�t know if you�ve seen her new show but it�s fantastic and it�s not slick. It�s real.